TBS5930 multistream failure can anyone help

[crazycat]

will there be a fix for 5530 as well?

look like not fixed

[digitaldvd]

DvbDReam has said that their software now supports the tbs5930 this is true for sd and hd channels but it is not the case for multistream when i run
dvbdream sometimes it works but most off the time as stated before there is large packet loss and picture breakup i cant do anymore testing so its now up to tbs to fix the problem or clearly state that their unit, as it now seems to be the case has hardware or driver issues for multistream.
Re Hauppauge wintv-Nova-s2 this unit is working without any problems for sd hd and multistream.

[digitaldvd]

Anyone got some suggestions, what i have found when running dvbdream and use the command reset device this can clear the device and give me a picture is it possible its a buffer issue sometimes i have to do a reset several times to get a picture but once i have a picture im able to change channel and view ?

[digitaldvd]

Just a little more ,i think its the stream code and pls id has issues, seems to lock on some times and other times no lock or channel info ,can any more be added to the driver for better detection ?

[digitaldvd]

Hi all have noticed a lot off views off this posting ,has any one else actually had a problem with their 5930 with multistream services or is it just me

[crazycat]

Your multistream with high modulation and FEC + your SNR close to limit.
In Europe present some multistreams with DTT muxes, but modulation usual 8PSK and SR < 45000

[digitaldvd]

Hi Crazy cat
can you add anything more to the driver software the transponder is running at 8psk and 3/4 symbol rate, when the tbs 5930 is working i can have it running for 2 or 3 hours and also change channel and have pip running at the same time no problem the issue seems to be it resolving the multistream id eg 123 124 125 132 135 136 as quite often it thinks its encrypted,you say its close to the limit if so why does the nova-s2 pctv/292e/461e bda28179 work ok ? i have a signal level off 90% and a quality level off 77%.
i was looking at the tbs 5930 lite but i suspect this would have the same issue sadly for me at this time i dont have linux running as its possible it may work ok.
Again thanks for the response

[crazycat]

Nova-s2 pctv/461e based on old Montage TS2022/M88DS3103 tuner/demod chip. First version M88DS3103 not support multistream, but latest m88ds3103b should support (but maybe driver not support ISI selection and you receive only first substream).

TBS 5930,5530 based on new single-chip tuner/demod m88rs6060 and require some more SNR for stable reception (integrated tuner affected some noise from demod part).

TBS 5931 (5930 lite) use another tuner/demod AV210x/GX1133. Also support multistream, but i not sure about SR limit for 16APSK.

[digitaldvd]

Nova-s2 pctv/461e based on old Montage TS2022/M88DS3103 tuner/demod chip. First version M88DS3103 not support multistream, but latest m88ds3103b should support (but maybe driver not support ISI selection and you receive only first substream).

TBS 5930,5530 based on new single-chip tuner/demod m88rs6060 and require some more SNR for stable reception (integrated tuner affected some noise from demod part).

TBS 5931 (5930 lite) use another tuner/demod AV210x/GX1133. Also support multistream, but i not sure about SR limit for 16APSK.

Are you able to alter the driver to allow the first stream to download the channels and ignore other streams as most off the time when it does work it seems to get the first stream which is 123 then 124 126 132 135.

[digitaldvd]

Hi All JUST A WARNING IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUY dont look at the tbs 5930lite,i decided to waste some more money and purchase the tbs5930lite what a waste off time and money it is even worse than the tbs5930,yes im still having issue with multi stream but a least i can get picture,but no go with the tbs5930lite it wont even decode the multistream yet its meant to be sx2 results using smartdvb show whats happening when tuning with each box.
Also found that the tbs 5930lite would not lock onto some data channels where as the tbs5930 does.

TBS 5930 lite

>> Tuning 11044,V,45000,0,Auto <<
>> Using LNB Default LNB(KU Linear) <<
> Lock aquired
[Tuning Done]
>> Scanning 11044,V,45000,0,Auto <<
>> Using LNB Default LNB(KU Linear) <<
> Clearing tables
> Section CRC failed
> Section CRC failed for PAT (section 0) retrying
> SDT 0x42 found, TID=928,SecNr=0,Len=771
> Section CRC failed
> Section CRC failed for PAT (section 0) retrying
> SDT 0x42 found, TID=928,SecNr=0,Len=368
> version 2
> Section CRC failed
> Section CRC failed for SDT (section 0) retrying
> Section CRC failed
> Section CRC failed for PAT (section 0) retrying
> SDT 0x42 found, TID=50565,SecNr=0,Len=368
> version 2
> Section CRC failed
> Section CRC failed for SDT (section 0) retrying
> Section CRC failed
> Section CRC failed for PAT (section 0) retrying
> Section CRC failed
> Section CRC failed for PAT (section 0) retrying
> PAT read FAILED TIMEOUT
> CAT read FAILED TIMEOUT...
> SDT 0x42 found, TID=50629,SecNr=0,Len=368
> SDT 42 read FAILED TIMEOUT...
> Channels Scanned
[ >> Scanning Done << ]

TBS 5930

>> Tuning 11044,V,45000,0,Auto <<
>> Using LNB Default LNB(KU Linear) <<
> Lock aquired
[Tuning Done]
>> Scanning 11044,V,45000,0,Auto <<
>> Using LNB Default LNB(KU Linear) <<
> Clearing tables
> PAT read...
> Processing PAT
> PAT Added PMT 1025, SID=929...
> PAT Added PMT 1032, SID=931...
> PAT Added PMT 1033, SID=932...
> PAT Added PMT 1024, SID=933...
> PAT Added PMT 1036, SID=934...
> PAT Added PMT 1026, SID=935...
> PAT Added PMT 1035, SID=936...
> PAT Added PMT 1037, SID=937...
> PAT Added PMT 1041, SID=945...
> PAT Added PMT 1042, SID=946...
> PAT Added PMT 1043, SID=947...
> PAT Added PMT 1044, SID=948...
> PAT Added PMT 1045, SID=949...
> PAT Added PMT 1046, SID=950...
> PAT Added PMT 1047, SID=951...
> Ready Processing PAT
> PMT 1046 read finished...
> PMT 1042 read finished...
> PMT 1041 read finished...
> PMT 1025 read finished...
> PMT 1047 read finished...
> PMT 1044 read finished...
> PMT 1045 read finished...
> PMT 1024 read finished...
> PMT 1037 read finished...
> PMT 1036 read finished...
> PMT 1032 read finished...
> PMT 1043 read finished...
> PMT 1026 read finished...
> PMT 1033 read finished...
> PMT 1035 read finished...
> SDT 0x42 found, TID=928,SecNr=0,Len=368
> version 2
> SDT 0x42 found, TID=928,SecNr=0,Len=368
> version 2
> CAT read FAILED TIMEOUT...
> SDT 0x42 found, TID=928,SecNr=0,Len=368
> version 2
> SDT 42 read FAILED TIMEOUT...
> SDT 42 names processed
> Channels Scanned
[ >> Scanning Done << ]